Promo for next week's SGA
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eregyrnIn case you're like us, and you tend to watch SG-1 and SGA through TiVo, this week the timing was screwing up the ability to actually watch the promos for next week's Summer Finale eps. In particular, our TiVo cut off the promo of SGA before we could get to see the full thing, and there was something in particular I was looking for...
You can now watch the full promo at SCI FI's Atlantis page, or here, on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WzKuQl7joI
So first, let me say: JACK!!!! SQUEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
And this is Jack in action, too -- or at least, a Jack *ready* for action, wearing his SGC BDUs. (But the olive ones, not the black ones; *sigh*. How come when current SG-1 goes to Atlantis, they all dress in the sexy black BDUs... but *Jack* goes, and *he* doesn't?) And all serious and commanding and in peril! WOO!
I was a little surprised that I didn't see other "squees" around the flist about this coming up, and that's why I started wondering if other people besides us missed it while watching on Friday night.
I was kind of interested by the fact that while he *was* included, and recognizably so (given that he speaks), he wasn't precisely *forefronted*. You do get to see him clearly a couple of times on the view-screen as he speaks, but otherwise you just catch a very choppy glimpse of him in a very kinetic action scene. That he's standing next to Woolsey in that scene, you can really only make out if you already know to be looking for Woolsey. You have to be able to pause it to figure out that that scene is Jack and Woolsey on Atlantis surrounded by a bunch of Asurans (more on that problem in a moment).
What interests me about this is that when they got Jack back for "200", they definitely made sure you knew *all* about it. As the ep says: "Are you kidding? It'll be in the *commercial*." I can't quite recall the commercials and the promos for "200" well enough now to remember whether the voice-over alluded to his being there, but they sure did give us a clear shot of Jack in the doorway, waving.
In contrast, here, Jack is just worked into the promo, but he isn't mentioned specifically in the voice-over or anything. In fact, the voice-over and the promo itself doesn't really talk about this ep being a SGC/SGA crossover at all -- if you weren't in the know you could be forgiven for thinking that all the SGC uniforms belonged to Daedalus people, and you kind of have to be alert to realize that some of the shots of the SGA folks are in the SGC briefing room and that we get shots of the SGC control room and Gateroom later in the promo. And of course, there's Jack. But the promo just doesn't really point him out much, although I assume that the face-time they give him on the viewscreen, along with his voice, is enough to make people who know SG-1 say "hey... wait a minute".
I just find it interesting that, clearly, when it was the SG-1 anniversary ep, they wanted to make good and sure that people knew that Jack would be back. And didn't they show him pretty clearly in all of the promos for SGA's "The Real World"? But here they've got him for a big two-parter, but they don't seem to me to be promoting it especially prominently.
So, as it is, I know of at least two friends who I bet didn't get to see the full promo, and for whom, therefore, his popping up on SGA really *is* going to be a surprise this week -- which is kind of neat.
I would just like to note, finally, that I really hate the fact that these flash players are *crap* (on a Mac, at least) at letting you pause video that they're playing, let alone, go through the things frame-by-frame. Their controls *suck*. I was hoping that I could use the new skeevy way I discovered to download videos from YouTube to grab a copy of it when somebody put it up there, and be able to do some screencaps from it *that* way, but... no. For some reason, there are some things posted on YouTube that I can't download in the skeevy way that I found out about, which annoys me, of course. So I've been able to do very little analysis of the promo, because it's really hard to pause it at just the right time. If anyone else is able to get caps from it, that'd be cool.
Finally... you know, I could SWEAR that it looks like the lead Asuran chick is being played by Megan Leitch (aka Ke'ra/Linea from S3's "Past and Present"; aka Samantha Mulder)... but I could be wrong. Just something about her face and her voice... Well, we'll see.
You can now watch the full promo at SCI FI's Atlantis page, or here, on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WzKuQl7joI
So first, let me say: JACK!!!! SQUEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
And this is Jack in action, too -- or at least, a Jack *ready* for action, wearing his SGC BDUs. (But the olive ones, not the black ones; *sigh*. How come when current SG-1 goes to Atlantis, they all dress in the sexy black BDUs... but *Jack* goes, and *he* doesn't?) And all serious and commanding and in peril! WOO!
I was a little surprised that I didn't see other "squees" around the flist about this coming up, and that's why I started wondering if other people besides us missed it while watching on Friday night.
I was kind of interested by the fact that while he *was* included, and recognizably so (given that he speaks), he wasn't precisely *forefronted*. You do get to see him clearly a couple of times on the view-screen as he speaks, but otherwise you just catch a very choppy glimpse of him in a very kinetic action scene. That he's standing next to Woolsey in that scene, you can really only make out if you already know to be looking for Woolsey. You have to be able to pause it to figure out that that scene is Jack and Woolsey on Atlantis surrounded by a bunch of Asurans (more on that problem in a moment).
What interests me about this is that when they got Jack back for "200", they definitely made sure you knew *all* about it. As the ep says: "Are you kidding? It'll be in the *commercial*." I can't quite recall the commercials and the promos for "200" well enough now to remember whether the voice-over alluded to his being there, but they sure did give us a clear shot of Jack in the doorway, waving.
In contrast, here, Jack is just worked into the promo, but he isn't mentioned specifically in the voice-over or anything. In fact, the voice-over and the promo itself doesn't really talk about this ep being a SGC/SGA crossover at all -- if you weren't in the know you could be forgiven for thinking that all the SGC uniforms belonged to Daedalus people, and you kind of have to be alert to realize that some of the shots of the SGA folks are in the SGC briefing room and that we get shots of the SGC control room and Gateroom later in the promo. And of course, there's Jack. But the promo just doesn't really point him out much, although I assume that the face-time they give him on the viewscreen, along with his voice, is enough to make people who know SG-1 say "hey... wait a minute".
I just find it interesting that, clearly, when it was the SG-1 anniversary ep, they wanted to make good and sure that people knew that Jack would be back. And didn't they show him pretty clearly in all of the promos for SGA's "The Real World"? But here they've got him for a big two-parter, but they don't seem to me to be promoting it especially prominently.
So, as it is, I know of at least two friends who I bet didn't get to see the full promo, and for whom, therefore, his popping up on SGA really *is* going to be a surprise this week -- which is kind of neat.
I would just like to note, finally, that I really hate the fact that these flash players are *crap* (on a Mac, at least) at letting you pause video that they're playing, let alone, go through the things frame-by-frame. Their controls *suck*. I was hoping that I could use the new skeevy way I discovered to download videos from YouTube to grab a copy of it when somebody put it up there, and be able to do some screencaps from it *that* way, but... no. For some reason, there are some things posted on YouTube that I can't download in the skeevy way that I found out about, which annoys me, of course. So I've been able to do very little analysis of the promo, because it's really hard to pause it at just the right time. If anyone else is able to get caps from it, that'd be cool.
Finally... you know, I could SWEAR that it looks like the lead Asuran chick is being played by Megan Leitch (aka Ke'ra/Linea from S3's "Past and Present"; aka Samantha Mulder)... but I could be wrong. Just something about her face and her voice... Well, we'll see.
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Date: 2006-09-17 05:54 pm (UTC)Normally, I have not really given downloading a thought, because the UK wound up being just 3 or so eps ahead of us, and my feeling was: ehn, I can wait 3 weeks to see the ep.
But *now*... there's too much happening in the second half of both seasons that I'm on tenterhooks over. The second part of this on SGA. "The Shroud". And of course, the damn *series finale*!!!
I am not very strong, with regard to avoiding spoilers anyhow. Indeed, in the normal course of things, I would sometimes crack and read UK and downloading people posting about the new eps they were getting before us. In these cases... I just *know* I won't be able to keep from reading those ep reviews... and I'm not sure that reading the ep reviews is going to be *enough* for me. I just have a really hard time avoiding spoilers that I know are out there.
The thing that is still making me hold back is that my main pleasure is sharing the eps with others on my flist when they are new. So, sure -- we could download them, and
Aaugh. Dilemma!
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Date: 2006-09-17 06:16 pm (UTC)On a sillier note, I'm finding it very amusing that you seem to have the Giant Space Jellyfish on your new LJ theme! :D
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Date: 2006-09-17 06:41 pm (UTC)Especially since it's so transparently ratings-driven.
But also, it's really difficult for you to compare it to UK television when *your* "seasons" are usually about half the length of our typical "seasons".
And don't even get me started on why they bother with staggered releases in various countries, any more. Especially between the US, Canada, and the UK.
... Giant Space Jellyfish? Huh? Where? I'm not seeing it...
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Date: 2006-09-17 06:50 pm (UTC)For home-grown series, certainly, 6-13 episodes is standard, but we show a lot of US imports as well and those are run through end-to-end. I'd hate to imagine hopping backwards and forwards in a plot arc-driven show like "Babylon 5", "Lost" or "24"!
Huh? Where? I'm not seeing it...
There's just something about randomly illuminated trees that always reminds me of your local green over Christmas/New Year.... :)
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Date: 2006-09-17 06:57 pm (UTC)Which is why we're bitching right now about how we get this mid-season break in SG-1 and SGA, and then we don't get the second half of the seasons for *6 months*. Which is abnormal even by US television standards... but then, that's the SciFi Channel for you! Asshats to the end.
There's just something about randomly illuminated trees that always reminds me of your local green over Christmas/New Year.... :)
Oh, right! *Those* Giant Space Jellyfish! The FESTIVE kind. (Nah, these trees don't remind me of that, just because, what makes the Waltham green trees into Space Jellyfish is the sheer laziness of the stringing of the lights, resulting in the vertical stripes effect.)
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Date: 2006-09-17 06:29 pm (UTC)it's a terrible dilemma that i have no answer for...except to hope that we all cave in together? ;)
:::whimpers:::
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Date: 2006-09-17 10:22 pm (UTC)I feel a little guilty about it, though, since it does mess with the fannish dynamics. Oh well.
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Date: 2006-09-19 03:02 am (UTC)I remember noticing some folks employing various strategies wrt watching things early, but trying to preserve the dynamics. There was someone, but I don't recall who, who was doing write-ups of the eps, but waiting to post them until they finally ran in the US. Or was it someone who was doing write-ups at the time, and who then posted further thoughts when they aired in the US? Either way, it seems like a viable option.
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Date: 2006-09-25 01:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-09-27 04:35 pm (UTC)I'll feel bad for those who *can't* DL, yes. But hey, I never let the fact that I have UK people on my flist stop me from watching/reacting/posting about the seasons before they could get the eps, even if some of *them* were in the position of not being able to or just not wanting to DL.
And from the poll, there seems to be a percentage of people who probably could DL but who won't anyway, so... ehn. (In retrospect, I wish I'd broken out those options to: "could download, but won't", "always have to download anyway, I'm in Germany/Australia etc.", and "can't download even if I wanted to, woe is me".)