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Yeah, the pilot was kind of exposition-heavy and overstuffed.

BUT I AM SO THERE. You cannot stop me. This is exactly the kind of ridiculousness I expected and wanted.

Behind the cut, spoilery thoughts and my live exchange with [livejournal.com profile] telepresence while watching...


Telepresence: .....
.....
........
...yeah, I ship it.


Me: *Already*???

(I haven't watched yet, I'm about to before I go to bed.)


Telepresence: Yeah, pretty much.

Tumblr seems to be settling on "Ichabbie".


Me: Tumblr is often stupid.

I mean really. C'mon.


Telepresence: Abbibod?


Me: NO PORTMANTEAUS. THEY ARE EVIL.


Telepresence: hahahahah!


Me: I know, it's a lost battle.

But my god, do people ever stop for a moment and think, "Ichabbie?
THAT'S STUPID"????


Telepresence: It's no Pepperrony, sure. I'm trying to think of all the ship names I can think of. Spashley. Naomily. Crisabel. Pipex, Rizzles. Swan Queen. Sleeping Warrior. Sterek. Pepsi. Paily. Gailly. Calzona, Tibette, Cophine, Doccubus, Brittanna, Faberry. Quinntana. Caskett.

But..you know, Bering and Wells are just Bering and Wells. And I think Xena and Gabrielle never really had a portmanteau. Did Mulder and Scully?


Me: No, it's a relatively recent phenom. X/G and Mulder/Scully and (thank fucking god) Jack/Daniel all were before it became a Thing.

The first one I might remember is McShep?

Meanwhile -- dang, Clancy Brown, did you even make it to the opening credits?


Me: AHAHAHAHAHA! Severed-head Cam!


Telepresence: http://31.media.tumblr.com/26b7dec710bc710ed2df434ca5ee0cba/tumblr_mt91xwyU6U1suijfxo1_1280.jpg




Me: Subtle, this show is not.

(Me: TELL ME YOU ARE NOT PLAYING 'SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL'! Oh, Show.)


Telepresence: You can't be too on the nose if you have no head.


Me: OH JOHN CHO NO! Don't be a bad witch! Aww.

Really show? Sympathy for the Devil AGAIN?

WHY IS THIS ONLY AN HOUR? AN HOUR IS TOO SHORT.


Telepresence: Next week, George Washington's Bible tells Ichabod and Abbie that the two Chosen Ones will avert the end of the world by Doing It.

(One commentator at the Onion AV Club on the premiere episode: "The first half hour flew by and was really interesting. The 9:30 - 9:40 block felt like it took an hour and a half. And then the Headless Horseman got a machine gun, and I pushed all my chips right to the center of the table.")


Me: Accurate. (Both.)

I actually laughed out loud at the pump-action shotgun. I don't know why.


Summary: I was sad that both Clancy Brown and John Cho got offed in the pilot, but I knew that going in. I'm assuming that even they are a bit too expensive for the show, so it was nice that they got included. Perhaps we will hear more of Clancy Brown's wonderful voice, as Abbie continues to go through his case files. Because clearly that's going to be a plot device.

And you know? It was the kind of "violence" that doesn't really bother me because it wasn't Starz-level of gory, but I gotta say... that unfocused demon thing in the mirror? REALLY EFFECTIVELY CREEPY. Well played, show.

I'm also giving them points for having a very well-trained red-tailed hawk, and for choosing a somewhat unconventional "spirit-animal" for Katrina. (It's not an owl, a raven, a cat, or a wolf, okay? That makes it kind of interesting.)

Also: YAY second-reel establishing shots of the Hudson valley! OOOOH! The Tappan Zee bridge!

I was kind of surprised that the "next time on" stuff was actually pretty extensive. But then I thought, well, that's because they really want people to get a sense of what to expect out of this weird-ass show.

I really enjoyed the idea of the balls-out supernatural stuff, though. And, since I've seen it mentioned -- I was fine with Crane's relative acceptance of "I've travelled into the distant future and what the hell is all of this?" There was "fish out of water" stuff, but it wasn't overwhelming. (I loved the playing with the car's power windows and locks thing, and also the "how do I open the car door from the inside?" thing.)

I guess I liked the show's take on it because obviously they can't do a literal interpretation of a Colonial-era person's reactions, since that would just bring things to a screeching halt all the time. I feel like with hysterical reactions to modern technology, a little goes a long way, and it's kind of refreshing (even if not "realistic") to see a character determined to take things in stride. Honestly, I'd enjoy it if the show WAS more of an examination of Crane's adapting to the modern world, but I don't EXPECT it. Plus I'm sure, that is what fanfic is going to be for. (When on earth did he clean all that dirt off? Did they send that coat out to be dry-cleaned or what?)

The main thing is, I really like both Abbie and Ichabod as characters. I also kind of like Orlando Jones' Cpt. Irving (*cough*), although I feel they can do more with him; he has some room to improve, but I like that he's a regular. (OMG ORLANDO JONES ARE YOU A BAD WITCH TOO???) I'm interested to see the show continue to do well in terms of diversity.

Conclusion: love the main characters, totally on board with the silliness. DON'T TANK, SHOW.

Date: 2013-09-17 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telepresence.livejournal.com
Another comment from Tumblr that cracked me up "Stupid cops, he has no head, but he's walking and doing stuff, which makes him some kind of zombie, except unkillable, because you can't shoot him in the head, he has no head, he's a super zombie, RUN AWAY!"

Date: 2013-09-17 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katie-m.livejournal.com
The first one I might remember is McShep?

Spuffy was before McShep, I think. (Everything bad about fandom can be blamed on Spike.)

Date: 2013-09-17 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eregyrn.livejournal.com
Spuffy. Yeah, that figures, doesn't it.

(I really wasn't anywhere near Buffy fandom, so I don't think I encountered it that much firsthand.)

Date: 2013-09-18 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com
Hrm, actually can't remember which came first -- Spuffy or Clex (Clark/Lex, but then I personally find it easy to blame everything nuts about fandom on Smallville).

Date: 2013-09-18 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eregyrn.livejournal.com
Now that you people are mentioning it, those are coming back to me. *cries*

I did have someone on my flist from SG-1 fandom who was super into Clex.

Date: 2013-09-17 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veejane.livejournal.com
What, no Crabby? Crane + Abby... Come on, people!

(My favorite portmanteaus are the ones I hear about from Glee, which all sound like embarrassing body noises, problems your television might come down with, or both: Furt, Klaine, etc.)

Mulder and Scully were so thoroughly the center of the universe that you just said M/S and everybody knew who you meant. Other characters with M or S names just had to lump it and use more letters.

Date: 2013-09-17 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eregyrn.livejournal.com
I ENDORSE "Crabbie". Because dude. HE SO TOTALLY IS, TOO.

(That was part of what I liked about some of his reactions to the modern world, but forgot to mention. He's not all, "what is this strange magic?", but instead goes full on irritated "and what the hell is that?")

Date: 2013-09-17 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnow1212.livejournal.com
Ichabbie, nooooooooooo!

Date: 2013-09-17 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eregyrn.livejournal.com
It seems to have caught on. Why. Whyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Date: 2013-09-18 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com
Soooo, are we watching this first one in a group? I mean, I was going to hold off, but then I saw this post and figured if you and telepresence had seen it already, so I just watched it.

And once I got over all the "What? How did...that doesn't work! But okay, snarky English dude can stick around, especially since he knows how to duck when shit is happening" my first thought was "WE CAN NEVER LET JANE ANYWHERE NEAR THIS." Although I guess we could make a drinking game out of it: any time you wonder if there was even one editor anywhere near the script, take a drink. Or maybe it would be safer to be drinking only when you don't think that.

Anyway, I'll give it my usual "you have three episodes to get over pilot-itis," since this first one did have elements I approved of and it didn't bore/horrify/etc me enough to give up here and now. But its writing choices are making me do a lot of suspicious side-eye.

Date: 2013-09-18 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eregyrn.livejournal.com
I was always gonna watch it no matter what. I think we should include it on Sunday and see how Jane's head does. Perhaps she can get all the way over the hump to the "it's ridiculous *handwave*" thing, because really, you have to. This show is no more "accurate" than Buffy was, and yet, plenty of people were able to wave their hands and enjoy Buffy. You just have to not even expect accuracy.

... Or proper police procedures. That either.

I'll be interested to hear what writing choices made you side-eye.

I also have to assume that subsequent episodes won't have quite the same "quick! stuff the kitchen sink in there too!" urgency about them. I hope.

I take it you didn't watch the previews for next week, because I can tell you, it's not letting up on the BONKERS.

Date: 2013-09-18 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miera-c.livejournal.com
I object to the scenery as North Carolina does not fucking look like the Hudson Valley, but other than that, I'm hooked! ;)

Date: 2013-09-18 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eregyrn.livejournal.com
I hear you. It's always disconcerting.

I have to assume it's a practical consideration: combo of tax breaks for the production, plus, I dunno, better shooting weather for longer, or something?

Look, I'm just glad they're not trying to pass off British Columbia as the Hudson Valley, okay? (I've never gotten over the X-Files pretending the forest around Vancouver was acceptably enough like the Pine Barrens of the Jersey Shore.)

Maybe if the show's successful, they'll be able to do more location shooting there in the future. That'd be nice. Some of the establishing shots they got are really gorgeous.

Date: 2013-09-19 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miera-c.livejournal.com
Oh X-Files. You were so ridiculous.

At least it's the East coast, right?

My sister and I simultaneously said while watching Sleepy Hollow, "I wonder how much they had to pay for the Rolling Stones song" - I bet that put a hole in the budget.

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